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December 02, 2014, 02:58:25 PM
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Post started by Petunia Epoch

http://epochmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/29005-legal-question-for-mods-about-encrypting-files/

Just a question is all.
 
 Epoch mod is released, I'm told, under the
 
 'Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International' Creative Commons license.
 
 As such, distributing edits is NOT allowed, but editing IS allowed - Someone correct me if I'm wrong with that, but that's how I read it.
 
The license (http://creativecommo...s/by-nc-nd/4.0/) also states:  
 
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   No additional restrictions — You may not apply legal terms or technological measures that legally restrict others from doing anything the license permits.

Technological measures is then further defined here:
 
https://wiki.creativ...orks_prohibited

A key part being this:
 
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   In the cases above, encryption or an access limitation does not violate the prohibition on technological measures because the recipient is not prevented from exercising all rights granted by the license (including rights of further redistribution).

My question then, is if the above license grants the right to edit so long as those edits are NOT distributed, does this encryption not prevent people from exercising that right (see 'all rights' in the quote above).

 Just a little confused. I mean I understand the need to keep EPOCH clean, especially as it's in early stages, but when it was mentioned people would be able to make their own mods for EPOCH, just not mess with EPOCH's core, I (and I think also others) didn't imaging this would extend to locking the PBOs so that any extra mods cannot be added (without requiring clients to download and add a launch parameter extra).

 I had no intention of messing with the EPOCH files, but did want to add things to the PBO (so an execvm would be the extent of my edits to EPOCH core).

 What I find sad about this, is that EPOCH got popular for one reason - people modding it. In fact, a few of the modifications done by the community were not at first that much welcomed by EPOCH devs (indestructible bases - I remember a whole on-going argument about that, with vbAWOL saying over and again he wouldn't implement it, despite the vast majority of people on the forum wanting it!)

 So the community made tweaks to put in the functionality people wanted - some were indeed liked by devs and welcomed - and thus EPOCH grew. With things like the bases argument - if the situation back then was as it is now, with no ability to make add-on mods, a whole chunk of EPOCH's core functionality would be missing!

 Now all the folks who've dutifully waited for server files to be released, holding off on making any mods and refrained from using the hacked scripts from 'the forum that won't be named' have been locked out of making pretty much any tweaks - not only to core files, but also by including any extra functionality without requiring extra add-ons.

 This is sad because although I understand your request NOT to mess with the epoch core files, what you've done by blocking the ability to edit the pbos, is stifle a hell of a lot of creativity that the EPOCH community has. A creativity that helped EPOCH get to where it is in the first place. Shame.

 Anyway - Back to the license question, as it appears that the encryption is preventing people for carrying out their legal rights (to edit, under the terms of the creative commons license, without distributing).

 I may of course be wrong - open to others take on these rules. Please do read the links above carefully though

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